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Camping in the Lake District: ‘The Private Camping Company’

1 Jul

Imagine if you will, the perfect campsite.  Beautiful views, campfires and a feeling of utter tranquility. Until someone rocks up and pitches thoughtlessly close to you, with all their mates.

The Lake District has some great campsites, I remember (dimly, it was a while ago!) some very happy days lounging next to Lake Coniston and exploring the sculpture trail at Grizedale.  Unfortunately, like many beautiful places in the UK, the Lake District can feel overcrowded at times.  Now, imagine the perfect campsite with one extra feature – no noisome, annoying ‘other people’!  Yes, it is possible.

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Image From ‘The Private Camping Company’ website

I came across the sedately named ‘The Private Camping Company’ last week and I have been dying to share my discovery ever since.  In a stroke of sheer brilliance, this enterprising organisation will arrange for you to camp in an idyllic spot usually unavailable to you and I.  Ideal for group camping, so you can share the cost and enjoy the experience with your friends.  ‘The Private Camping Company’ has made arrangements with land owners in the area to allow a camping experience you won’t forget.  They will organise a ‘camp’, you will need to bring your own tent etc, they will provide a fire pit, composting toilet, a communal weather proof marquee,  plus a number of other optional extras.  One of their ‘sites’ is on the shores of Lake Coniston with direct lake shore access.  Sigh.

I have been persuaded this year to do a camping tour of Cornwall, owing to, well a persuasive husband and some other supporting factors.  However,  I have been longing to re-visit the Lake District for some time.  The existence of ‘The Private Camping Company’ has strengthened my resolve for next year!

In case you are wondering, I am not being sponsored or in any way benefitting from the ‘Private Camping Company‘.  I just think it is a BRILLIANT  idea.  whisper: And what is even more exciting? There is a pilot scheme running in the Bristol/Somerset area this summer.  Eeek.

And if this has made you suspect I’m an anti social camper – well, yes I might be, a little bit.

Campsite Review: Debden House (2), Epping Forest, London!

19 Jun

Where: Debden House. Epping Forest, Borough of Newham

How much: £10 per adult and £4 per child (this was quoted to me on an e-mail from Debden in April 2013 but pricing does seem changeable)

Campfires: Only in Fire Fields 5 and 6. Big fire pits.

Wood:  Large piles of wood of all sorts left at the entrance to the fire fields, including pallets, tree stumps, old doors etc. Bring an axe.

Types of camping:  All kinds! Group, individuals, families,  tents, vans, caravans, schools, brownies, teenage groups, etc

Facilities: Two toilet blocks, one with showers.

The review:  ‘Why are you trekking all the way over there?’, was the general cry when I disclosed the location of last weekend’s camping trip to my local friends.  I live in Bath, with excellent access to much of the South West and Wales, so why trek across the country to the outer limits of London to camp?  Well, to be honest if it were entirely in my hands I probably wouldn’t , but I did, twice in fact, we went last year too. And why? To meet up with friends from London of course!

Debden House, Fire Field 5

Fire Field 5

Last time, as we arrived we had problems with a rather scary large family who had pitched on our pitch (which had been booked for about 6 months) who were absolutely NOT moving. To be fair I understood their position, they had been told to camp anywhere so they did.  Sadly they didn’t understand our position, quite loudly. It did not make a great start to that visit.  Anyway as we arrived this time after a VERY long and complicated journey I was just hoping there would be no scary confrontations to deal with before we could set up.  And my wish was granted. But, what is the saying? ‘Be careful what you wish for’.  There was very little chance of anyone nicking our pitch because it was on the side of a mountain. Ok, I am slightly overstating the geography, but the pitch was properly slopey.  We found a part sort of flattish bit, only not really, we had to get the kids to switch sides in bed so big one wouldn’t squash little one and add extra height to the head end of our bed.  The main problem was that we were expecting four or so tents to turn up the next day and there was no hope for them finding anywhere remotely flat to pitch.  I spoke to the lady in reception the next day and she advised me that we could choose anywhere in field 6 as an alternative.  Turned out that field 6 was pretty slopey too and when our friends turned up they trembled slightly at the thought of camping in the ‘party field’.  Indeed, the next evening 3 police cars turned up in field 6 to deal with – well, whatever you need 3 police cars to sort out!  Fortunately, following a further call to reception we were allowed a fabulously flat pitch in the corner of Field 5.  All move.  Much better.  Apart from the bog.  But I can’t really blame that on the campsite, there has been a phenomenal amount of rain recently!

Debden House, Fire Field 5

Our new pitch (11)

There are two very important things to know about Debden House.  Number 1, it is huge.  Really mind bogglingly enormous.  Just to give you some sense of scale, there was a VW fest going on in one field and I ‘m not even sure where it was.

Debden House

Three vans off to a VW fest – somewhere in the site!

There are 7 fields in all, each one in itself the size of a pretty big campsite.  And it isn’t just the campsite that is huge, it’s the piches too.  On our pitch we had 5 medium sized tents, 2 two man tents and a campervan.  In ONE pitch! And because the field is so huge it is perfectly acceptable to spread into the middle a bit too so you can really have a great group camp.

Debden House Map

The map!

Now, given its enormousness you might imagine an abundance of facilities.  You would imagine wrong.  There are two toilet areas, see the blue spots on the map.  The one in the middle is not wonderful.

Debden House toilets

The toilet roll runs out in the evening, and I did find myself thinking of composting toilets with unexpected longing.  My main gripe is the long hike to get there.  I quite like the walking to the toilets thing when you are camping, but it really is a long way.  As a result, lots of people use the woods immediately behind their pitch.  Again, weeing in the woods is a fine by me , but leaving bits of loo paper hanging off the bushes is not fine.  If you need a bit more luxury the toilet and shower block near the entrance is very well appointed, although an even longer trek from the ‘Fire Fields’.

The second really important thing about Debden House is its location.  Right in the middle of Epping Forest.  I confess I  had previously harboured the notion that Epping Forest was a bit like Forest Gate, where all that is left of the forest is the name.  I was wrong.  Epping Forest is large and magnificent.  It is home to an abundance of wildlife, scores of ponds and lakes, mature oaks, beeches, hornbeam.  Truly beautiful.  Great for nature lovers, cyclists, walkers and rope swing lovers!  It is an incredible place for Londoners to have relatively easy access to.  The great thing about Debden House is that it is all  right behind your pitch. Once you get beyond the tide mark of litter at the very edges you are straight into proper forest.  There are rope swings dotted around and endless opportunities for den making, wildlife observing, tree climbing and general good clean fun.Debden House

I am very torn about this site.  There are some very good things about it.  One of the fields is given over to institution camping, I mean brownies, youth groups, schools etc.  A very heartening sight.  Campfires are clearly a popular feature.  The forest is amazing and the place is so enormous I doubt it would ever feel crowded. It is great for group camping, loads of space.  However, the facilities are inadequate, people don’t take care, the staff don’t seem very engaged and there are definitely some problems with large groups of young people, although they do seem to have their own field.  Oh and watch out for pitch 8 fire field 5, seriously its a mountainside.  Also, it did seem rather expensive to me.

On site there is also a cycle hire facility www.gofurthercycling.co.uk , a little cafe and a campers shop.  I didn’t use any of these so can’t really comment!

In the end I guess it depends what you are after.  I wouldn’t recommend trekking across the country for it- unless you have a bunch of friends from London who fancy doing a group camp. However, if you live in London and want a taste of forest and real camping, this is a good option.

If you enjoy camping with a fire you might want to consider buying one of these.

Campsite review: Leeford Farm, Doone Valley, Exmoor.

4 Jun

Where: Leeford Farm, Exmoor

How much: £6 each for adults, £3 for children under 5

Campfires:  On the floor, no official fire pits,  just make a fire.

Wood: £4 for a ‘small’bag and £5 for a large bag of very nice Ash.  Very good value! No kindling sold.

Types of camping: Tents, campervans, motor homes, anything really. Electrical Hook up available but no hard standing.

Facilities: Unisex toilet and shower block.

The review: In my ‘campsites to visit’ spreadsheet (yes, I am that obsessed), I have a campsite I have annotated as ‘Leeford Farm, the new Cloud Farm?’.  Having found Cloud Farm packed to bursting, the natural response was to try Leeford Farm, only a few minutes drive down the valley.

Leeford Farm offers riverside camping.  There is one large flat field, bordered on one side by the river, and a couple of other fields that have some flat areas. Campfires are allowed and the farmer comes round selling bags of very well priced and good quality logs.

Leeford Farm, the river runs along within the trees.

The other edge of the field.

It is not quite as picturesque as Cloud Farm, the land around is mostly sheep fields but don’t get me wrong it is still a very pretty spot.  We happened to pitch next to the place where it is easiest to get down the the river, a little river beach,  the perfect spot for that morning cup of tea and endless entertainment for the kids. Kingfishers and an otter have been spotted here.

A fellow camper had made this cool river seat out of the stone around. Perfect cup of tea spot!

Way down to the little river beach.

The facilities do need a mention, this is not four star camping.  The facilites are basic.  However, there are two toilets and two showers.  The showers are apparently pretty good and certainly spacious.  There is also an under cover washing up area.  All of this is housed in a repurposed farm building.  it is not luxurious or attractive but it does the job.  Although, there were quite a lot of campers the toilets were always as clean as you could reasonably expect them to be.  I didn’t much fancy using the towel hung on the back of the door to dry my hands though.

Leeford Farm – facilities.

We camped on the very busy Jubilee weekend and by Sunday the site had filled up considerably.  In fact we were almost squeezed out of our pitch by a large group of family tents which pitched right next to us.  The very affable farmer, Ray, has not instituted any rules which is good in some ways but perhaps a minimum distance from the next tent would be good.  There was also a large group on the other side of the field playing guitar and singing very loudly until quite late, fortunately we were far enough away that we couldn’t hear them.  I would not have been happy if we had pitched next to them though. Perhaps a curfew on music would be good.

However, this is all part of the rough and ready nature of the site.  It does accept large groups and you can rock up without booking.  Ray and some neighbouring campers assured us it was never usually that busy, so I would still be willing to give it another go.

There is no website but Ray can be contacted on 01598 741231 or 07974 443476

You can walk into the village of Brendon from Leeford Farm, there is a tea room for cream teas, with an attached restaurant for evening meals  and a pub which serves food.  At busy times you will need to book to eat at either for evening meals, although the pub does also do a small takeaway menu.

Check out more alternatives sites along the Doone Valley (or the East Lynn River Valley) and in the area.

Campsite Review: Eweleaze Farm, nr Weymouth, Dorset

28 May

Where: Eweleaze Farm, Nr Weymouth, Dorset – ONLY OPEN in AUGUST

How much: It’s a bit complicated, you will need to check the website, but one weekend night for two adults and two young children cost us £38, it is cheaper on weekdays.

Campfires: Yes, anywhere you like (in accordance with safety regulations)

Wood: Yes, sold in the farmyard £5 per bag.

Types of Camping: Tents and small campervans only.  Bell tents can also be hired, set up and ready to go from Honeybells.

Facilities: Mostly composting toilets, a few flushable toilets, solar heated showers, very basic outdoor washing up areas, shop, bakery, wood fired pizzas, coffees etc.  Animals to pet, hay bale kids fun, puppies to walk, ponies to ride!

The Review: Campfires, sea views and its own private beach! I could barely contain my excitement as we approached Eweleaze Farm on a sunny August day. As we drove up the track, the Red Arrows, mid display, appeared in the sky above us.  It was an auspicious start to our visit.

The site spans a number of fields, infact it is easily the biggest site I have been to, open as a campsite only in August, the rest of the time pasture land.  Not all of the fields have sea views and little of it is flat.  The fields closest to the beach and with the best views are carless.  Which also made them the emptiest.   With a little determination we did locate a spot with a decent view, my helpful hint is get there early if you are going for the weekend. Though if you aren’t so bothered about the sea view there is loads of space and pretty pastoral views all around.( On our second visit we found a great spot in East Field close to the outward bound holiday camp, plenty of space and sea views.)

The whole atmosphere of the site is of a  family friendly festival; lots of bell tents and flags and kids enjoying the freedom.  In the central area there is a fairly well stocked shop, you can also get stonebaked pizzas and various other snacks and hot drinks.

Great for the kids is also the thoughtful addition of a barn with hay bales to climb and throw themselves off, and a selection of friendly animals who happily nestle among the picnic tables.

This goat is ALWAYS standing on a table!

Pigs LOVE icecream!

Kids can also ‘help’ walk the farms sheep dogs and some of the older puppies – a very popular activity!

The beach is stony and there are a fair number of steps down to it. If you walk along to the right some way you will reach a more sandy section of the beach.  Nothing can beat going to the beach in your pyjamas.

Off to the beach in our pyjamas

The toilets are composting toilets.  They are absolutely fine, just don’t look down.  There are solar powered showers which are apparently pretty good and water taps all over the place. As it is usually a farm it lacks some niceties like a washing up spot, warm water or sinks for washing your hands. There are lots of groups, I didn’t notice any rowdiness but plenty of people sitting up late talking (with various degrees of loudness) round the campfire.(NB in 2012 there were washing up areas and an attempt at warm water for them!)

It is possible to walk along the coast path from the campsite in either direction, towards Durdle Door and Lulworth Cove or Weymouth.  Lots of areas to explore.

In all a bit rough and ready, but the central area gives the place a nice focus and of course you can’t ignore that beach and sea views.  You should try to book in advance.  However, they are very flexible.  If they appear to be full on the Saturday but not on the Friday it is possible to book for Friday night only then extend your visit once you are there. It is also possible to add you and your family, car tent etc to a friends booking even on arrival. They have a nearby sister site called Northdown Farm open in July, no sea views but same formula.

Beach.

If you like camping with a fire you might need one of these:

Portable Fire Pits

Debden House, Borough of Newham, London

17 May

http://www.debdenhouse.com/Campsite/Campsite.html

What an unusual place. Yes, officially in London, but surrounded by Epping Forest, not an area I had visited before. Epping Forest is massive (as I discovered when I got lost in it, but that’s another story). The campsite itself is pretty huge with several different fields. We stayed in the ‘Campfire Field’ (surprise!). We were camping with a large group of friends and for this purpose Debden house was very good. The pitches are absolutely enourmous, we had about 4 tents, 2 campervans plus day tents and gazebos galore and they all fit in one pitch. Each pitch has a large fire pit and backs onto the open forest. So far, so good! The forest is an amazing place to explore, just keep your wits about you almost everyone seems to have a lost in the forest story there!

However, there are down sides. It was rumoured that there was free firewood at the gates of the field but in reality it was a scraggy great heap of left over builders rubbish. Very little of it suitable for burning and really ruined the look of the place. The site is run by the council and the staff were, pretty disorganised and at times unhelpful. You are close to metropolitan London and you can tell. The rubbish both on the site and in the forest was a sad sight to see, people left pitches in a poor state, there was glass and metal on our fire pit. The toilets are far from most of the fields so many people used the woods.

A real shame because it offers a brilliant facility for those poor coutryside starved Londoners and Epping Forest really is magnificent. Because of this and because of its astoundingly large pitches and fire pits it is a good place to meet up with a group of friends – just watch out for booking confusion, be ready to stand your ground.

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